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Time Capsule vs Other NAS Devices
I recently got a new hard drive for my iBook and my wife is getting a new one for her PowerBook and now we find that the external backup drives we have won't hold the contents of our new internal drives. I was looking at backup solutions and really like the idea of a NAS device. We want to start using Time Machine since and are thinking about a 1 TB device. I'm looking at Apple's Time Capsule vs some other drives and had some questions (that may or may not be answerable since it's not shpping yet).

Are there any thoughts or theorys on the simplicty of using Time Capsule for multi-user Time Machine backups on a third-party NAS device? Does Time Machine allow any disk to hold multiple Time Machine backups? I don't want to have to partition a disk (or keep two 500 GB drives separate, if that's the setup) to accopmlish this. On the Time Capslue page it specifically says that it's good for multiple Mac backups. Might this be a Time Machine feature or just one any such device?

Thank you for any thoughts or suggestions you might have.
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ravenofdreams From: ravenofdreams Date: February 1st, 2008 09:59 pm (UTC) (Link)
Having not had my mitts on a Time Capsule yet, I can't comment on it. However, to answer your other questions, Time Machine can place multiple machines' or multiple users' backups on one drive. That drive does not have to be a Time Capsule.
As I understood it, the chief perk to the TC is that it can run TM over a wifi connection, which other drives cannot, even when mounted as NAS. (I can't get any of my Macs to backup to my WD external when it's hooked to a standard wireless router. I can get them all to do so on one partition when the drive is hooked directly to each of them in turn.)
heylookltsme From: heylookltsme Date: February 1st, 2008 10:37 pm (UTC) (Link)
the chief perk to the TC is that it can run TM over a wifi connection, which other drives cannot, even when mounted as NAS.

I understand if you don't know the answer to this, but why is that? If seems to me that if your computer recognizes the NAS over the network, you should be able to use it for wireless back ups. But I don't really know anything about it, so... ;-)
kevinblanchard From: kevinblanchard Date: February 2nd, 2008 01:58 am (UTC) (Link)
Unless something has been changed or someone found hack around it, TC will NOT backup to a NAS (other than TC) unless it is a drive hooked up to a machine running leopard.
hiromasaki From: hiromasaki Date: February 2nd, 2008 03:32 pm (UTC) (Link)
From what I was reading in an earlier post, it's a change in HFS+ that was made in 10.5 that is not supported over non-AFP network shares.

So, like kevinblanchard says, it has to be a 10.5 machine or a TC, until someone else makes a TimeMachine specific NAS device.
corradokid From: corradokid Date: February 2nd, 2008 01:25 am (UTC) (Link)
From: (Anonymous) Date: February 3rd, 2008 12:10 am (UTC) (Link)
At the moment, Time Machine does not support backing up to any NAS except for Time Capsule. You can use some hacks to enable backing up to other NAS devices but I do not advise that as experience shows that there is a very real possibility of your backup data being corrupted or entirely lost and backups will not behave as expected in cases where your network connection is interrupted.

Apple appears to have made changes to their AFP and/or filesystem implementations on the server side to avoid these issues and those changes are currently only implemented on OS X Server, OS X Personal File Sharing and presumably on the forthcoming Time Capsule.

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